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Old Apr 16, 2009, 01:30 PM // 13:30   #1
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Default Excited about Zaishen Challenge Quests

I see some real fun possibilities with the way these quests appear to operate.

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* Mission quests send you to replay storyline missions from each campaign.
* Bounty quests dispatch you to kill boss monsters in dungeons, veteran missions, and explorable areas.
* PvP quests challenge you to win battles in various PvP types.

I'm particularly excited about the bounty quests. I hope the first bounty is the famous:



Obviously if the rewards aren't good enough to warrant even doing these tasks then this idea will fall on its face, so I do have some reserve thoughts about it as well.
It is purely speculation on my part, but i hope this gives us a reason to be interested in some pug'ing again. Since these quests are not repeatable = somewhat not farmable in the sense of you have to have 8 players with XXXX build or you can't come.

Does anyone else share my excitement for this new way to play existing content?

EDIT:Info is at the bottom of this page.
http://www.guildwars.com/community/e...ry/default.php

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Old Apr 16, 2009, 01:53 PM // 13:53   #2
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What I fear is that experienced players will shout at/insult less experienced ones because of their bad builds, aggro management or whatever. On the other hand, it could also turn out to be the perfect way for the experienced players to teach one thing or two to the newer players.
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Old Apr 16, 2009, 01:57 PM // 13:57   #3
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So you will do all the same as before, but for a small reward.

I like it.
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Old Apr 16, 2009, 02:48 PM // 14:48   #4
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Wouldn't it be great if they force people to party up with this?

No heroes and henchman allowed, wow, open some QQ threads allready.
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Old Apr 16, 2009, 02:49 PM // 14:49   #5
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What I fear is that experienced players will shout at/insult less experienced ones because of their bad builds, aggro management or whatever. On the other hand, it could also turn out to be the perfect way for the experienced players to teach one thing or two to the newer players.
Most of the decent/good players will stick to their guilds/alliances(Edit:Friendslist) leaving the bad players to play with each other.

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Old Apr 16, 2009, 02:53 PM // 14:53   #6
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Maybe those quests are a nice way to get the Guardian/Protector-titles.....
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Old Apr 16, 2009, 03:16 PM // 15:16   #7
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Unless they give us a lolipop as reward.. is fine.

I'm thinking 2 things:

- Will that quest be by char or by account? I mean.. can i kill X boss several times, once with each char?
- What's the new thing that will make "us" play together again for the bounties?. If is in a dungeon, simply take a run as now, kill him along the way, end of history. If is in a remote explorable zone: runner (perma maybe?) & human + H&H (sab, disc, roj, ...) .. same.
Unless elite zones... that's gonna be quick, i bet.

For missions I dunno, but that's my 2c at bounty quests :S.

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Old Apr 16, 2009, 03:19 PM // 15:19   #8
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When does the patch come out? I can't wait
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Old Apr 16, 2009, 03:22 PM // 15:22   #9
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When does the patch come out? I can't wait
1,5-2 weeks I would say.
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Old Apr 16, 2009, 03:27 PM // 15:27   #10
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I'm happy because the zaishen cahllenge and zaishen elite challenge are really lame. This change may make the zaishen presence on that island worth something.
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Old Apr 16, 2009, 04:02 PM // 16:02   #11
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I'm excited because I rarely visit the battle isles (i have a pvp mule? )
i never really got into PvP, sure I'd play a bit and it was fun and all, but i like the pve a lot more
i think it'll be awesome to get some pve quests from the battle isles *can't waitt *
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Old Apr 16, 2009, 04:09 PM // 16:09   #12
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I suspect the update'll be the middle of next week, as it is mentioned on the update preview that the event starts just before the live update on the 23rd.
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Old Apr 16, 2009, 04:21 PM // 16:21   #13
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Pugging huh?

Nah. I expect people will do it with heroes, just like everything else - I would.
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Old Apr 16, 2009, 04:24 PM // 16:24   #14
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Wouldn't it be great if they force people to party up with this?

No heroes and henchman allowed, wow
...No.
And not just for the obvious "I don't like failing pve" reason.
Taking heroes + 1 or 2 pugs is fine, as you're 4 man cell is likely able to handle anything NM pve can throw at you. Thus;
The pugs feel they're contributing,
You succeed -> pugs are happy / selfconfidence++
Pugs still pick up tips.

You + 7 average pugs is just asking for trouble.
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Old Apr 16, 2009, 04:53 PM // 16:53   #15
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I plan on doing this ONLY if it includes non-repeatable quests (Althea's Ashes on my assassin! In HM! *faints*).
If it's repeatable quests only - I won't be doing them the same way that I am not doing them now.
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Old Apr 16, 2009, 05:03 PM // 17:03   #16
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Pugging huh?

Nah. I expect people will do it with heroes, just like everything else - I would.
This. Il probably find it much quicker and less effort to do it myself. Il take a friend/guildie along if they happen to be doing the same quest, But otherwise il stick to my triple necros.

Although a few days ago in GToB the devs mentioned that there will be Elite Area quests, eg kill urgoz. So that'l force me to PuG up or find abunch of guildies.
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Old Apr 16, 2009, 05:36 PM // 17:36   #17
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I AM EXCITED =D. new quests to do everyday with decent difficulty and decent rewards? something new to do? can't wait =D hopefully it isn't a let down, but i think they will have to be pretty bad to be a let down. it's probably something that has been in the works for a while now, so hopefully ANET has thought it through very thoroughly. we will see
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Old Apr 16, 2009, 06:10 PM // 18:10   #18
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Yes. I am very excited because it;s gonna be fun
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Old Apr 16, 2009, 06:12 PM // 18:12   #19
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daily quests are a new and exciting concept!
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Old Apr 16, 2009, 06:34 PM // 18:34   #20
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it's probably something that has been in the works for a while now, so hopefully ANET has thought it through very thoroughly. we will see
- Hope so, but unlikely. Every time they promise new stuff, their talks are on way higher level than actual execution. Remember when they said polymock is like "Pokémon on crack". Do you see anyone playing that stuff if not for skill rewards? Is there market for those golden game pieces dropping in dungeons? Jade Quarry the ghost town since day one of Factions release?

You have to be a gamer to understand how to design games. All of these are just superficial ideas, barebone structures, which don't have the necessary elements to keep players hooked.

Zaishen quests will be:
1. Travel to this area and do this mission / kill this boss (which you've already done)
2. Return to get zaishen coin
3. Exchange zaishen coin to get your identification kit / ale / lockpick / zaishen key

People will do it for novelty for some time, then they return to what they were doing before update, because that stuff is faster and more efficient for farming. This is how it will be.
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